Read On the Nature of the Universe (Oxford World’s Classics) Online
Authors: Ronald Melville,Don,Peta Fowler
And penetrate all unseen hiding places | |
And draw the truth from them. | |
But if you are weary and find the going too hard | 410 |
There’s one thing, Memmius, I can safely promise you: | |
Such bounteous draughts from springs o’er-flowing drawn | |
With sweetest tongue my well-stored mind will pour | |
That first I fear slow-moving age will creep | |
Over our limbs and loose the bonds of life | 415 |
Before the full store of my arguments | |
On any single thing has filled your ears. | |
But now, to pick up the thread of my discourse, | |
All nature, as it is in itself, consists | |
Of two things: there are bodies and there is void | 420 |
In which these bodies are and through which they move. | |
The senses which are common to men declare | |
That body has a separate existence. | |
Without faith firmly founded in our senses | |
There will be no standard to which we can refer | |
In hidden matters, giving us the power | |
To establish anything by reasoning. | 425 |
If there were no place and space, which we call void, | |
Bodies could not be situated anywhere | |
And they would totally lack the power of movement, | |
As I explained a little time ago. | |
Now here’s a further point. Nothing exists | 430 |
Which you could say is wholly distinct from body | |
And separate from void—a third nature of some kind. | |
For whatever exists must in itself be something; | |
If touch affects it however light and small | |
It will increase the amount of matter by much or little, | 435 |
Provided it does exist, and swell its sum. | |
But if it is intangible, and cannot prevent | |
Anything anywhere from passing through it, | |
Doubtless it will be what we call empty void. | |
Besides, whatever exists will either act on things | 440 |
Or else react to other things acting on it, | |
Or it will be such that things can happen in it. | |
But without body nothing can act or react | |
And nothing can give place save emptiness and void. | |
Therefore apart from void and matter no third substance | |
Can remain to be numbered in the sum of things, | 445 |
Neither one that falls within the range of senses | |
Nor one that mind can grasp by reasoning. | |
For you will find that all things that can be named | |
Are either properties of these two things | |
Or else you can see that they are accidents of them. | |
A property is something that cannot be separated | 450 |
Or removed from a thing without destroying it. | |
As weight to rocks, wetness to water, heat to fire, | |
Touch to all bodies, intangibility to void. | |
But slavery, by contrast, poverty and riches | |
Freedom, war, peace and all such things | 455 |
As may come and go but leave things in their essence | |
Intact, these, as is right, we call accidents. | |
Time likewise does not exist by itself, | |
But a sense follows from things themselves | |
Of what has been done in the past, what now is present, | 460 |
And what in addition is to follow after. | |
And no one has a sense of time distinct | |
From the movement of things or from their quiet rest. | |
Moreover, when they say that Helen’s rape | |
And Troy’s defeat in war are facts, we must be careful | |
To see that they do not drive us to admit | 465 |
That these things have an independent existence, | |
Arguing that those ancient generations | |
Of whom these great events were accidents | |
By time irrevocable have all been borne away. | |
For whatever is done must be an accident | |
Either of the whole earth or of some place in it. | 470 |
Moreover, if no matter had existed | |
Nor room or space for things to operate, | |
The flame of love would never have been fired | |
By Helen’s beauty deep in Paris’ heart | |
Nor kindled blazing battles of savage war. | 475 |
No wooden horse unmarked by sons of Troy | |
Spawning the midnight Greeks from out its womb | |
Had set the towers of Ilium aflame. | |
So you may see that events never at all | |
Exist by themselves as matter does, nor can | |
Be said to exist in the same way as void. | 480 |
But rightly you may call them accidents | |
Of matter and of place in which things happen. | |
Material objects are of two kinds, partly atoms | |
And partly also compounds formed from atoms. | |
The atoms themselves no force can ever quench, | 485 |
For by their solidity in the end they win. | |
Though it is difficult to believe that anything | |
That is completely solid can exist. | |
For lightning passes through the walls of houses, | |
And likewise sound and voices; iron glows | |
White hot in fire, and boulders burst apart | 490 |
In the fierce blaze of heat; the solidness | |
Of gold grows soft and melts, the ice of bronze | |
Is overcome by fire and liquefied; | |
And warmth and piercing cold both seep through silver | |
As when in solemn rite we hold the cup | 495 |
We feel both when dewy water is poured in. | |
So nothing in the world seems really solid. | |
But yet, because true reason and nature itself | |
Compel, be with me, while I demonstrate | |
In a few verses that there do exist | |
Bodies that are both solid and everlasting, | 500 |
Which we teach are seeds or primal atoms of things | |
From which now all creation has been made. | |
First, since we have found that nature is twofold, | |
Consisting of two widely different things— | |
Matter and the space in which things happen— | 505 |
Each must exist by itself unmixed with the other. | |
For where there is empty space, which we call void, | |
There matter is not; and where matter takes its stand | |
There in no way can empty void exist. | |
Therefore primal atoms are solid and without void. | 510 |
Again, since void exists in things created, | |
There must be solid matter surrounding it, | |
Nor could you prove by truthful argument | |
That anything hides void, and holds it within it, | |
Unless you accept that that which holds is solid. | |
And that again can be nothing but an assembly | 515 |
Of matter, able to hold the void inside it. | |
Matter therefore, which is absolutely solid, | |
Can last for ever, though all else be dissolved. | |
Then further, if there were nothing void and empty, | 520 |
The universe would be one solid mass. | |
On the other hand, unless there were definite bodies | |
Able to fill the space each occupies, | |
Then everything would be vacant space and void. | |
An alternation then of matter and void | |
Must clearly exist, the two quite separate, | |
Since the universe is not completely full | 525 |
Nor yet completely empty. So definite bodies | |
Exist which distinguish empty space from full. | |
And, as I have just shown, these can neither be broken | |
By blows struck from outside, nor inwardly | |
Pierced and unravelled; neither can they be | |
Attacked and shaken in any other way. | 530 |
For without void it is clear that nothing can | |
Be crushed or broken or split in two by cutting; | |
Nor can it let in moisture or seeping cold | |
Or penetrating fire, all forces of destruction. | 535 |
And the more void a thing contains within it | |
The deeper strike the blows of those assailants. | |
Therefore if atoms are solid and without void, | |
As I have shown, they must be everlasting. | |
Besides, had matter not been everlasting, | 540 |
All things by now would have returned to nothing, | |
And the things we see would have been born again from nothing. | |
But since I have shown that nothing can be created | |
From nothing, nor things made return to nothing, | |
The primal atoms must have immortal substance | 545 |
Into which at their last hour all things can be resolved | |
And furnish matter to renew the world. | |
So atoms must be solid single wholes; | |
Nor can they be in any other way | |
Preserved intact from endless ages past | |
Throughout eternity to make things new. | 550 |
Consider this also: if nature had set | |